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This week's small step

For the next seven days, don't grab your phone when you wake up. Stay still in bed for a moment, take a few deep breaths, and pray three words: I am here. You're here, in this place and this moment, and the great I Am is here with you. Then give God the first hour before you give it to anyone else. And if you've got kids, give them the same small step. Call that quiet moment holy, not lazy.

From “I Am Here: Addison Bevere on Rediscovering Prayer”

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Ep. 21 · September 22, 2026 · 43 min

Q&A: Family Meetings, In-Laws, and How to Actually Keep Your Friends

Every Brave coaching call starts with the same question: what's on fire? So for the first time, Joey Odom and Chris Hart opened the DMs, pulled the questions you sent, and answered them the way they would on a call,…

Ep. 20 · September 15, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min

From the NFL to Parenting in Crisis: NFL Vet Dustin Hopkins & Gabby Hopkins

Dustin Hopkins kicked in the NFL for more than a decade, from Buffalo to Washington to the Chargers to Cleveland, after an All-American career at Florida State where he scored 466 points. His wife Gabby is a…

Ep. 19 · September 8, 2026 · 44 min

Vocation: Give It Your All Without Giving It Everything

You'll spend about ten full years of your life working. And the ache most of us feel about that isn't failure, it's futility: did anything I did today actually matter? Joey Odom and Chris Hart open with one of history's…

September 1, 2026 · 50 min

Guardrails: How To Protect The Vision For Your Life

Where there's no vision, people cast off restraint. Joey Odom and Chris Hart build this episode on the half of Proverbs 29:18 most of us skip: vision isn't only about where you're going. It also decides what you're…

Ep. 17 · August 25, 2026 · 59 min

The Man in the Arena: Vanderbilt’s Blaze Berlowitz & Cole Adams

Joey Odom wrote a card to Vanderbilt head coach Clark Lea after this one, because he'd never been more impressed with two young men. Quarterback Blaze Berlowitz and wide receiver Cole Adams sit down with Joey and Chris…

Ep. 16 · August 18, 2026 · 45 min

Wartime: How To Win The Hardest Season (Part 2)

Part one named the season. Part two is the playbook. Joey Odom and Chris Hart pick up right where they left off with the first-ever Brave & Big two-parter, and this time it's all practice: what a wartime life actually…

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The hosts

Two friends who take ground every day.

Chris Hart

Founder, Brave Coaches

Chris leads Brave Coaches, an executive and life coaching firm that has helped hundreds of leaders build lives worth following. Husband to Molly, dad, and the man behind the 20-Mile March.

Joey Odom

Speaker, author, former tech co-founder

Joey is a speaker and writer, husband to Kristen, and dad to Harrison and Gianna. His first book is on the way.

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